Krama Vidya
Every question on the site tagged Krama Vidya, each answered from a timestamped source rather than a summary written from memory.
The systematic, staged progression of Mahavidya mantra practice — from Ekakshari through Tryakshari, Shadakshari, Ashtakshari, Saptakshari, Mala Mantras, and Anga Vidyas — culminating in Purnabhisheka authorization.
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Why are commercialized courses promising rapid mastery of the 10 Mahavidyas misleading?
Authentic Mahavidya sadhana requires years of disciplined Purashcharana, Guru Parampara, and a step-by-step Krama Vidya progression through Shakta Diksha, Krama Diksha, and Purnabhisheka — not a guarantee delivered in a few months.
Durga Saptashati Mahavidya Krama Path as a remedy for vashikaran
The speaker says that once the sadhika knew the truth and had seen other girls being treated the same way, she searched for a counter (kaat) to Vashikaran and found this channel's viral video on reciting Shri Durga Saptashati in the Mahavidyas krama. Without contacting the channel, she began the path in that krama during Navratri to ease her guilt and sense of impurity, completed the whole vidhan, had a Havan done as far as she could, and did the remaining kriyas in a temple. Afterwards, by Bhagwati's grace, she felt boundless peace, meaning the effect of the tantra had been fully cut. He explains that the Chandi charitra holds such shaktis of Jagadamba that when one calls on Bhagwati with full surrender, her shaktis pull one out of any tantra whatever. As the video had said one may recite it from Ashtami to chaturdashi, she then began doing so every month, and her guilt slowly lessened.
The astra mantras, vidakshar mantras and krama vidyas follow the ang vidyas, each taken up in order.
The speaker says that after that come the astra mantras, in which one of Bhagavati's weapons is made siddh; then various kinds of mantra, different mantras connected with the vidaksharas, and krama vidyas — so one advances in order. The importance of the ang vidyas is greater, he says, because one never calls a single person alone.
What is offered to those who cannot do the whole Saptashati daily?
Asked to explain how those who wish to do the whole Saptashati daily with as much anga pujan as possible should do it, he says he has told the whole of it already in this session; and for those who cannot do the whole of it, he has already given the Mahavidya krama.
How should a 108-fold Chandi Path anushthan be arranged?
Asked whether an anushthan of 108 Chandi Paths should be done by the Mahavidya krama and from when to when, he says: if you wish to do the Chandi Path anushthan by the Samadhi krama you may; complete it from Ashtami to Chaturdashi. And whenever a hundred paaths are completed, or if you wish, if you are doing it only once in a month, do the process of bali on the last day, the Chaturdashi. If a tithi is kshaya, increase the paaths accordingly.
How does entry into the shakti kshetra begin?
The main subject, the speaker says, is that for those who have been doing sadhanas for a long time, if they wish to enter the shakti kshetra, the beginning is always from kramagat sadhana.
How does bhoot-pret sadhana sit within shakti sadhana?
The bhoot-pret sadhana that is done within shakti sadhana, the paishachik sadhanas that come, are never done independently, the speaker says. Those who are sadhaks of a high varna, of a high order, who do the sadhana of shakti and of the mahashaktis, do the sadhana of these things within a krama-based sadhana. Their case is different. They do not perfect bhoot, pret and pishach independently and keep them.
Why must Ganpati sadhana come next, and what happens without it?
After the guru comes Ganpati sadhana. We say again and again, he says, that the sadhana that is of the very first rank in life cannot happen at all without completing Ganpati sadhana. If you do not do Ganpati sadhana, then in whatever sadhana comes afterwards, obstruction and hindrance is bound to come — obstruction will come even at the very last stage. Therefore Ganpati sadhana is extremely necessary.
Guru, Ganpati and Bhairav first, then the stotra and satnam of one's own ishta aradhya by vidhi vidhan
A new sadhak should always do the beginning like this: guru, Ganpati, Bhairav, then the japa by vidhi vidhan of the stotra and satnam and the rest of his own ishta aradhya. After that their prayoga and so on; and when this is complete, then the further vidhi vidhan should be done.
Repeat the sadhana already begun; a new one comes only after the basic Guru-Ganpati sadhana
He says again: if you are already doing some sadhana, repeat that very one. A protective sadhana may be taken up if you have not done one — many have been doing Ganpati ji's sadhana, have done the Sankat Nashan, have done the Ekakshari japa of Dattatreya Maharaj. Once their basic, initial sadhana of Guru and Ganpati is complete, then the sadhana of Bhairav ji or of Hanuman ji is to be done — and either may be begun from Dwadashi or from Chaturdashi. In his own view you should do Hanuman ji's Panjar now, which is the fastest; or if you wish, the Badvanal.
Diksha and siddhi in Annapurna sadhana versus the householder's simple way
The speaker says Diksha for this mantra is needed only by those who want to do Annapurna's sadhana by the krama vidhan and gain special siddhis; such people take Shakta initiation and practise by the Krama Vidya. Of Jagadamba herself only kripa can be had, but her yoginis can be made siddh, and only then does a sadhu or siddha yogi receive a jhola or vessel in which grain and wealth never run short, used for his own living and for jan kalyan. An ordinary Grihastha sadhak, he says, can do this sadhana in the ordinary manner without any of that.
Is Bhagavati Tara present in Kamakhya's upasana too?
Yes. If you go to perform upasana connected with Bhagavati Kamakhya, then from the Ekakshari onward as you begin to advance, if you are going in krama — although Bhagavati Kamakhya does not come within the Krama Vidya, being a svatantra vidya — Bhagavati Tara is somewhere fully included in those too. The form of Kamakhya is held to include three mahashaktis; even so, by various granths Tara is chiefly contained within her.
Durga Saptashati in the Navratri plan is read in the Mahavidya krama, not in full every day
The speaker says the first thing to know is that the complete Saptashati path is not done every day; it is done in the Mahavidyas krama, whose full method he has given separately on the channel. He says he will also describe here how the nine days go together in that krama.
Daily Saptashati path in the Mahavidya krama: no utkeelan or Mrityu Sanjeevani; kavach, argala, keelak, the day's adhyaya, then the Tantrokta Devi Suktam
The speaker says that when the Saptashati pujan and path are done in the Mahavidya krama there is no need to perform the utkeelan or the Mrityu Sanjeevani (sanjeevan) krama — he has explained this with proofs in a separate video. What is done is only the Kavach, argala and keelak, then the adhyaya for that day — on the first day the first adhyaya — and after the adhyaya, the path of the Tantrokta Devi Suktam, the stuti beginning 'ya devi sarvabhuteshu'. Kavach, argala and keelak are recited every day of the nine.
What is Pratyangira, and does every shakti have one?
The speaker says Pratyangira is a krama vidya, and every shakti has her own Pratyangira. If you go looking on the internet you will find the Pratyangira of Bhagavati Bagla and Bhagavati Tara, and at most of Bhagavati Kali; the mool mantra of Bhagavati Durga you will obtain. Bhagavati Kamakhya too has her Pratyangira, and Bhagavan Shiva has his own.
How many Pratyangiras are there?
The speaker says there is the mool Pratyangira, then Pratyangira, then viparit Pratyangira, then mahaviparit Pratyangira — there are four. Aparajita too, he says, is in one way a shakti of Pratyangira herself, by the tantra-bheda of later times.
If I cannot meet my guru, may I use a Sabar prayog myself, and in what order should sadhana begin?
If you have perfected the Sabar mantras, then you may use them, the speaker says. Asked where to do kuldevi sadhana and Shiva sadhana, at a temple or at home, and in what order, he says: if you are new and are doing your first sadhana, then first of all you should do the sadhana of the guru mantra. If there is no guru, then Bhagwan Dattatreya holds within himself the swaroop of all three, Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh, so japa and sadhana of the mantras relating to Bhagwan Dattatreya should be done. After that, if you wish to do Shiva ji's sadhana, then before that do the kuldevi's sadhana; and before even that you should do the sadhana of Ganpati and Bhairav. In order, this is how it goes.
At about eighteen months the groundwork lets a Guru give the Panchakshari straight away, skipping the four opening sadhanas.
At around a year and a quarter to two years. The speaker undertakes to have the person examined by a suitable authority and formally initiated in a proper tradition — and because the groundwork is done, the Guru may give the Panchakshari straight away instead of the Ekakshari, skipping the opening four sadhanas.
Which sadhana should one born in Mool nakshatra do?
Asked which sadhana a person born in Mool nakshatra should do, the speaker answers that sadhana according to nakshatra — you are in any case already doing Bhagavati's. So according to him there is no need to do anything else separately. For the sadhana of the Mahavidyas there is no need to look at nakshatra and all this specially; it is written in there too. Shodhan should not be done at all: chakra shodhan, krama shodhan, this whole subject of the shodhan of nakshatras and the rest is for the siddhi of the vidyas, and for the upa-devatas. It is not done for the Mahavidyas.
The mool form itself changes only when the krama is carried further — as in the Pratyangira form of Pitambara Baglamukhi
In Bhagavati Pitambara Baglamukhi's mool yantra, as you move through the krama — from Trayakshari to the Ekakshari mool, or into the Trayakshari and Ashtakshari — the form still holds; but if you then begin advancing further in the krama, difference begins to enter even the mool form. Go into the Pratyangira form of Pitambara Baglamukhi and you will see the difference in that same yantra.
The basic sadhanas — Guru, Ganpati, Batuk Bhairav, Panchakshari — complete within a year at one a month
A year. Within a year you can comfortably complete the basic sadhanas — Guru, Ganpati, Batuk Bhairav, Panchakshari — a month at a time: the Panchakshari in Shravan, some sadhana in Chaitra Navratri, Batuk Bhairav in Margashirsha, Ganpati in Magh, looking at what falls where.
The many options exist for your convenience, not because one bears fruit and another does not
Because whatever seems manageable to you, you should be able to do. It is not that doing the thirty-two Namavali brings you fruit and doing a Kavach does not, or that your work will not be accomplished — Jagadamba's form is the same everywhere and the same at the root; it will be completed from there too.
The Mahavidya krama recitation is not an invention — it stands in the Shri Durga Archan Paddhati
No. Look through the various methods of Saptashati recitation given in the Tantra texts connected with Bhagavati; and if nothing else, look at the Shri Durga Archan Paddhati compiled by Acharya Sudatt Mishra Shastri — you will find this prescription there too. We have not imposed some invented prescription on you.
What can someone who has begun no sequential sadhana still recite in Navratri?
If you wish to do the sequential sadhana and have done nothing yet, then even so, in Navratri recite Bhagavati's Sahasranama or Satnama and the like. Recite a Kavach. Recite the Stutis; do the Saptashati in Hindi. At the least your Bhava toward the Mother will be formed.
What is the ladder from a chalisa upward?
As many as are new sadhaks, those who are entirely new and have done nothing, they should begin from the chalisa, he says. Those who have gone forward from that can do the siddhi of the thirty-two Namavali and the like. Those who have gone further ahead than that can do that of the satnam and the like, can do that of the kavach, can do that of the other stotras. After that, one can move toward the Sahasranama and the rest, and toward the Hriday.
Take the case of a neighbourhood sadhak initiated in Shri Kula or Kali Kula, in Kadi or Hadi
Suppose, he says, there is a sadhak in your own area or neighbourhood who is initiated in the Shri Vidya kula or the Kali kula, in Kadi or Hadi — take him as initiated in Shri Kula, in Kadi.
Having reached Pratyangira in krama diksha, little effort remains for her mantra siddhi
If in Krama Vidya diksha you have gone as far as Mahapratyangira, he says, then you will not have to make very much effort for the siddhi of Bhagavati Pratyangira, for the siddhi of her mantras. And if her kripa has come and you have done the purashcharana of the mantras, then when all this falls before you, the capacity to break it in a second will be within you.
Can Narsingh's twelve-name stotra serve as the small sadhana before Bhagavati's mool sadhana?
A listener, in kramagat sadhana, has done Ganesh ji, Bhairav ji and Hanuman ji, and wants to do a small sadhana of the fourth Veer Narsingh ji before Bhagavati's mool sadhana, and asks whether he may use Narsingh's twelve-name stotra. Absolutely you can, the speaker says.
Why do people ignore correct advice and get entangled in such sadhanas?
The speaker says that just as some people's niyati takes them to such a place that even if Brahma ji himself told them to do the pujan of Vighnaraj Ganpati and all their trouble would go — and asked how to do the puja of Ganpati he would say offer durva to the Bhagavan, offer it by his 108 names — they still will not accept even Brahma ji's word, because their niyati is such. They will not accept. Niyati will make them suffer it and then be satisfied; they will suffer. And in just this way, the niyati of those whose complete destruction is to happen, such cursed people, will take them: they will get entangled in the sadhana of such devi devatas as cannot happen at all without vidhi vidhan, without parampara, without krama sadhana — it is not for everybody, but they will have it done.
Can several deities' sadhanas be done together with a main Narsingh sadhana?
Asked whether, along with the main sadhana of Bhagavan Narsingh, the sadhana of Bhagavati Kamakhya Durga should also be done, and whether Batuk Bhairav's should be done with it too, the speaker says it will depend on whose the chief sadhana is to be. Everyone's sadhana cannot be done at once; it will have to be done kramagat. And there will be one chief sadhana only — the rest will be in the limbs alone.
Is a stomach problem normal in an ugra sadhana?
No, brother, it is not a matter of the normal, the speaker says. If it is happening from an ugra sadhana, then it is a matter of loss of control. For the one whose sadhana you are doing, you ought to know the vidhi vidhan a little and to do the sadhana of other vidyas first — as, if trouble is arising from the sadhana of Bhagavati, then Bhairav's and Shiva ji's should be done there, for balance.
What order of sadhanas follows the guru sadhana?
Asked which sadhanas of Ganesh ji and Hanuman ji may be done in the next stage after the sadhana of Dattatreya, that is of the guru, the speaker gives the order: guru, Ganpati, then Bhairav ji; after that, according to your birth chart, the sadhanas of the grahas connected with the fifth and ninth bhava, or the sadhana of the lagnesh, whichever needs to be strengthened; then the sadhana of the kul devi devta; and then the principal sadhana.
Can the Sahasrakshari Stotra be sidhed for release from tantra?
A listener asks how to sidh the Shri Sahasrakshari Stotra in Shravan so that release from tantra is obtained. The speaker replies that to sidh the Sahasrakshari Stotra as well — but the questioner has now left the Shatakshari aside and gone straight into the Sahasrakshari. According to him, he says, you cannot do it like that. You are free for your own decision; according to him you cannot make the prayoga of the Sahasrakshari in this way.
Why do pujan and tantra sadhana still end in failure without Ganesh?
Because however much pujan-path we do and however many tantra-related sadhanas we perform, if we are not doing pujan-path connected with Bhagavan Shri Ganesh and no special prayoga related to him, then a very great failure comes to hand. He asks listeners to consider how much Ganesh-related sadhana they have actually done for all the troubles that drove them to sadhana.
Inside a kula parampara one becomes capable in sequence and receives the adesh for beejatmak sadhana
He says that when you go into a kula parampara you will become capable in the prescribed way, proceeding step by step, and you will receive the adesh for beejatmak sadhana. If you have gone into such a kula, and the sadhana of every shakti is done there in the prescribed way, then you will come to know that this subject is not so easy.
The more easily available a gupt subject becomes, the less its importance and effect
He says you can read it — search for these things now and they will be found easily — and then relate and understand. But these are gupt matters, and the more easily they become accessible to people, the more their importance will diminish, and when they are put to use they will give no effect. Because when the person simply comes to know that such a thing exists, there is no samarpan in him at all.
In how many amnayas are Baglamukhi and the Mahavidyas worshipped?
He says Bhagavati Baglamukhi too is worshipped in the six amnayas in different forms. It is not that she is in four amnayas or in only one — her presence is in all the amnayas. The ten Mahavidyas belong to all the amnayas. The deeper a person goes into this, the more he will come to know.
A Hindi Saptashati path follows the same order as the Sanskrit, whether done in one day or seven
To Shreyas Kapri ji he repeats the answer: the Saptashati path in Hindi is to be done in the same manner as the vidhi for doing it in Sanskrit. If done in one day, then Kavach, Argala, Keelak, the thirteen adhyayas, and then the three Rahasyas. If you cannot do it in one day and must do it in seven, then follow the vidhi of the Mahavidya krama path — first day the first adhyaya, second day the second and third adhyaya, and so on.
How is the Devi Khadgamala stotra made siddh?
The Khadgamala stotra, the speaker says, is in itself extremely unfailing, divine and swift in effect, and is svayam-siddh. According to its phalashruti you may make an effort for siddhi: at least 1100 paths should be done, and since the Khadgamala is in itself a kind of chakra vidya, a great many niyams have to be followed. Its havan should not be done.
In the Mahavidya krama paath, are utkilan and shaap uddhar necessary?
Answering Naveen Kumar ji, he says he has explained this in detail in a live video, and tells it again: whenever we do paath in the Mahavidya krama, then utkilan and shaap uddhar are to be done on the first day only. Because we are not doing the whole paath in one day, it is not to be done daily. And as to whether it is necessary — in the Mahavidya krama it is not necessary, because we are not completing the japa of the Saptashati; we are doing paath, of different adhyayas on different days.
When is shraap uddhar particularly required?
When we do the japa of the thirteen adhyayas of the Saptashati on one day, in one sitting, at one time, then shraap uddhar and the like is needed in particular. If you are doing it in the Mahavidya krama, or are reciting only the madhyam adhyaya, the madhyam charitra, then no special cause remains for shraap uddhar and the rest. But the views of scholars may differ in this, because the Saptashati is in itself a very extensive and a different kind of subject.
The keelan applies when the whole is completed together
Now do not go into the depth of it, he says — brother, but the Saptashati is keelit, and all these things. That is so when you are completing it all together. When you do it in this krama — the greatest peculiarity of the Mahavidya krama is precisely this: do it daily in this manner so that its full fruit may be attained by you.
In what order should sadhana be begun?
The beginning of sadhana should be made from guru sadhana. Then Ganpati, then Bhairav ji, then the main sadhana. And in between these are the devi-devatas of one's own kula, who are the most distinctive. Then also the sadhana of the fifth and ninth bhavas of the kundali and of the lagnesh. You may begin from guru sadhana.
Can one simply do lakhs of japa of the Baglamukhi mantra?
Baglamukhi is a Mahavidya, the speaker says, and if you have done the japa of a Mahavidya's mantra then you have taken its diksha — which diksha did you receive, the thirty-six syllable one directly, or a kramagat diksha? That matter is very different. Merely saying we have done several lakh japa does not make it so; you cannot compress Baglamukhi into one sentence. She is not one whose mantra can be seen somewhere, or obtained, or heard of from someone's experience, and then simply japa'd in lakhs.
Can the Durga Ashtakshari mantra be done without diksha?
This Durga Ashtakshari mantra is in itself an Ashtakshari vidya, the speaker tells Mrigendra Rajput, and he never tells anyone to do mantras without diksha. The reason: until there is diksha this cannot be done as an independent mantra alone, because it comes within the vidya krama. You may do the nama mantra; but the full Ashtakshari mantra cannot be done in that way. At the least take upadesh from some competent sadhak and do it with that. And in any case there are so many things to do — a mantra alone is not done independently in that fashion.
What does the upadesh of the Ashtakshari carry with it?
Suppose someone receives the diksha of the Ashtakshari, the speaker says: the guru will not give the Ashtakshari diksha alone, but will give upadesh with it. He will say that the form of Bhagavati as the Ashtakshari, according to the Ashtakshari mantra, has this dhyana mantra — the mantra beginning Kalabhra Brahma and so on will be its dhyana mantra, and you are to meditate with this mantra. Then, since her Bhairav is Ruru Bhairav, the guru will separately give the Ruru Bhairav mantra, his tryakshari or panchakshari. After that, if the Ashtakshari is carried further — whether the yogini is to be present in it, whether the yogini pujan will be done, whether the bali in the dakshin and ishan corner is to be given after the japa — then if that is to be given, the guru will give three more mantras for it.
Knowledge needed before japping a Pitambara mantra without diksha
The speaker says Diksha brings daksata, and that daksata comes in the things that are kriyatmak. So anyone who japs any mantra of Bhagavati Pitambara without diksha must first of all have its pronunciation correct. He adds that even a single Ekakshari mantra of Pitambara raises a separate question: whether it is to be japped in the makar form or the gakar form, how far that is proper for the person, and in which krama one intends to travel. These things, he says, one must know.
How is the chakra vidhi of the thirty-two namavali performed?
After that, do path of the thirty-two namavali by the chakra vidhi — its PDF is available on the channel. Take the sankalp that Bhagwati may grant you justice, saying the matter is of such a kind and asking her to grant justice, that you are in her refuge. One chakra vidhi means you will have to do the path thirty-three times. Then offer it to Bhagwati: keeping camphor in a vessel and placing a nutmeg upon it, kindle it. There is no rule or prohibition of any kind about eating and drinking in this. It is most excellent if this is done after 8 or 9 at night.
How many mantras are done in a Shri Vidya mantra anushthan in Navratri?
If you have taken the deeksha of Shri Vidya, Sunil ji, then do it accordingly, the speaker says. If you take it from the Krama Vidya, that is best of all; and within the Krama Vidya too, do it in one single krama, do one single Ekakshari, do the Chaturakshari — but the anushthan should be done holding to one alone. Now, if you have taken the Chaturakshari, then until four lakh are completed you should do the anushthan of that same mantra again and again.
Is Hanuman's japa to be done after eating garlic and onion, and is there a Mandar Tantra?
The japa of Hanuman should not be done after eating garlic and onion, he says. And asked whether there is any grantha called Mandar Tantra — yes there is; Mandar vidya is an anga vidya of Bhagavati, having a separate mantra of its own, and Mandar Tantra is a different thing altogether.
After the beej mantras come the mudras, then the avaran vistar and the peeth pujan
When those are learnt, then learn it with the mudras — which mudra is to be shown in which avaran, after how many mantras it is to be shown, how each one differs, where the dhyana is and how it is to be done. When those are learnt, after these three or four things, then learn the avaran vistar — that we are now up to the ninth avaran, how we shall do the tenth and the eleventh, how the twelfth and the thirteenth. Learn that, and learn the peeth pujan.
How should the daily Saraswati path be done?
The vidhi of the daily Saraswati path has been given on the channel, he says; one may do the Mahavidyas in their sequence.
What must be in place before a Pratyangira recitation?
The prescription of protection must certainly be kept in place beforehand. Because you will perform the Pratyangira, and if the Abhichar's state is reversed and the enemy is knowledgeable and reverses it back, then consider it: it will return to you with threefold the effect.
Is a new Deeksha needed to take up another mantra of the same power?
If you are already initiated and have performed the Purashcharan and obtained the mantra's Siddhi, you do not need to take Deeksha anywhere again. Take some other mantra of the same power, or its Anga Vidyas — with Pashupatinath there are many, Khadgaravan and others — perform their Purashcharan, and use them in a Shiva temple.
Is there a particular Bhairav for a person by rashi or kundali?
If you go that far, then there certainly are, the speaker says: there are Bhairavs according to nakshatra as well, according to your rashi as well, according to the lagna as well. For those who have to go into the Krama Bhairav sadhana, everything of that kind exists. It is not necessary for everyone in that way.
What fruit does the ordinary daily thirteenth adhyaya give?
The paath which you do ordinarily every day — if you do the thirteenth adhyaya, the speaker says, that same fruit you will get from it too. You will get it by the Mahavidya krama as well. A hundred weeks will be taken.
How can the Durga paath be done without diksha?
You can do it by the ordinary Mahavidya krama, the speaker says; you can do it in Hindi.
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