Kache Kalve

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Kacce Kalve

Minor, unrefined spirits — used, for instance, for low-level occult reconnaissance (scouting a target household's spiritual defenses) before a more serious attack.

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How a bhagatwal sadhak binds shaktis: learning from a sayana, vachan and bhog
The speaker describes how it is done: staying with an existing sevda sayana or bhagatwal sadhak and learning one thing at a time — going to the masaan, learning masaanik kriyas, how to awaken a masaan shakti, how to run it, how to give it an aavahan, how to send it against someone; siddhi of kache kalve and how to use them; some good shaktis of the dev-upadev yoni; and dakini-related female pret shaktis, pretni and the like — all of these are principally taken under vachan and bhog.
What is a chowki?
The speaker says never to assume that Bhagavati Mahakali's own swarup has been installed at such a place. What is actually given a place there, through some mantra of Mahakali or through the sadhak's own guru's teaching, is a particular female pret shakti in a dakini swarup — nourished by Mahakali-related puja, bhog and mantra through this tantra kriya until its energy is transformed into something that broadly reflects Mahakali-related tattva, but in a negative form; it is awakened because it is tivra and works powerfully. Alongside it sit masaan, kache kalve, dakini-related shaktis and pret-vichar, each placed in its own way — together, this whole composite is what is called a "chowki". Perfume, flowers and milk are offered there, but the mantra actually running behind everything is a single Mahakali sabar mantra.
How a hired bhagatwal abhichar on a family begins: reconnaissance and the weakest member
The speaker says that with time the bhoot-pret-pishach of a chowki demand more, because a pret body is a body of desires, and when a client offers a bhagat a lakh of rupees to wreck an enemy, the bhagat first does a reki — spying, not healing — of the target family using his Kache Kalve, masan, sometimes a siddh kapal, or shaktis handed down by dying elders who pass on their vachanbaddha powers, even those of Muslim tradition. He looks at what puja the household does. If it does none — the house is not bound, no annual puja, no visits to a Shakti Peeth — the house is open and he applies Vidveshana directly, causing quarrels. If the house does worship, he finds the one member who does not: a teenage son who eats and drinks outside, whose impure body a liquor-craving Pishach easily rides to enter the house and start strife; or a teenage daughter with no kavach or energetic protection — going out with open hair, wearing perfume morning and night, not believing bhoot-pret exist — on whom a mohini or pishachik shakti from the chowki is set, so that she comes home afflicted and either turns irritable, sickly and quarrelsome or begins to go astray in character, against her own will.
What should those with oot, miscarriage or masan dosha do?
Those who do the upays connected with oot, or whose miscarriage and the like has happened and those children appear in dreams; women who see themselves as pregnant; unmarried girls who see themselves pregnant or with a child; those with masan dosha and the like, or the dosha of the kalve — such people should on the day of Amavasya go to the temple of Bhagavati Kali ji, where a peepal tree stands, and there certainly do the upay that has been described. For the oot of the house, for children of the house whose death happened in that way, whatever vidhi of pujan has been described is to be done at the temple only. This pujan is not to be done at home — he says he has clarified this again and again.
What punishment does one who performs a Maran receive?
Such a punishment, the speaker says, that they are reduced to want of every grain — and they do not even die. Worms come to such people.
What happens when masan vidya is used against someone?
The speaker says listeners will be astonished. When masan vidya is used on somebody — kache kalve, masan, that kind of thing — then there we use Hanuman ji, we use Bhairav ji, we do prayogas connected with Kali ji and with Bhagavati. But no person ever says there that you should do a prayoga connected with Bhagavan Shri Ganesh. It is a very great subject.
Some want siddhi plainly, starting at a Mahavidya and climbing down as it proves unavailable
The third kind, he says, wants siddhi, plain and simple. And nowadays the talk does not start below a Mahavidya. When that cannot be arranged the demand comes down step by step: get a yakshini done; if not a yakshini then an apsara; leave it, Maharaj, just get one small chudail done; a pret then; leave that too — will you arrange a kachcha kalva, and what will you charge?
Others want to walk the adhyatma and tantra path alongside ordinary life — find your own fit
The last kind, he says, understand that problems exist because human life exists, but alongside that they wish to become spiritual, to walk the adhyatma path and to learn something connected with tantra, and for that want a capable guru who can teach them. Overall, he says, so many whys will come out; see which category you fit into and search for a guru accordingly. If you want a chudail-transfer guru, find one; if you want masan and kachche kalve, find that too.
How does an unfulfilled atma attach itself at a birth?
That unfulfilled atma, the speaker says, because it was caused pain at some time, will not consider what effect will or will not fall upon the child being born in its own family. If she was pregnant, the child in her womb who went as masan or as kalva will attach itself along with her at that time; and the mother in whose breasts the milk is to descend will be drained by that unfulfilled atma. This, he says, is why very often the milk does not descend in the breasts.
Where is a copper vessel with gud and water actually used in tantra?
He says that if you put honey in copper it will in any case become poison. When rudragana sadhana is performed, and some prayog of the special ganas of Rudra is done, and the kachche kalve are used in their vidhi, then what is given to them as prasadi or as the dhaar is bound in a copper lota itself, with gud and water in it — and that is exactly the poison. He says the tantrokta vidhan states this plainly too.
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