Why Marana Prayoga Kills Some Instantly and Leaves Others Untouched — Ripening Curses, Depleted Punya and Rinanubandha
When a marana prayoga acts instantly and when it fails: ripening curses of deities and pitrs, punya lost to pride, rinanubandha with the enemy, escalating bali by the enemy, and the warning signs that precede its effect.
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Puzzle of marana prayoga: instant death for some, no effect on others
When a marana prayoga begins to act
The speaker frames the question: we usually hear that a marana prayoga was done, symptoms appeared, the person died, and only afterwards it is confirmed. But is it really possible that the target dies the moment the prayoga is done? He points to two puzzles — how can it succeed against a person who does daily puja and japa, whose family does yajna and havan, and why does it sometimes do nothing at all to a very wicked person?
The speaker says that in an earlier video the kinds of Marana Prayoga and the symptoms seen on the person it is done upon were covered. Today's subject, he says, is when a marana prayoga actually begins to show its effect on a person. What we practically see, read or hear, he says, is this: a marana prayoga was done on someone, symptoms appeared, the person died, and later, once it was shown and told, it was confirmed that yes, a marana prayoga had happened. But is it possible, he asks, that as soon as a marana prayoga is done the target dies at once? He says the matter needs analysis, because faith is also involved. If a person does puja-path and japa daily by rule, how can a marana prayoga succeed on him? If some family member does yajna and Havan, daily dhoop-deep and anushthan, how is death possible? That question arises. On the other side, he says, there is the case of a very wicked person on whom a marana prayoga is being done, yet it gives no effect at all. These contradictory things happen — in one place the marana works instantly, in another it cannot even take hold — and so, he says, the topic today is when and how the effect of marana and the like falls.
A ripening curse of a deity or ancestor makes marana prayoga strike at once
Curses ripen years or a generation later
The speaker says instant death by a marana prayoga is theoretically possible, and the first thing that makes it possible is a shraap of a deity or of the pitrs on us or our ancestors. His example is a bride tormented to death in an earlier generation, whose learned father cursed the family with his tapobal. A curse rarely bears fruit at once, as in serials; it ripens 5, 10, 15 or 20 years later, or in the next generation. When that ripening moment arrives, a marana prayoga done on the person takes effect instantly. Asked how the curse can ripen exactly when the marana is done, he says it is the rule Bhagavan has made, his maya.
Generally, the speaker says, it is theoretically possible that a marana prayoga is done on someone and he dies at once through some accident (ghaat) — some circumstance forms in which his death occurs. The very first thing behind this, he says, is the Shraap of a deity or of the Pitr: if at any point in any lifetime we or our ancestors were cursed by someone. He gives an example. Suppose among our ancestors there was a marriage, and the woman who came into the family died for some reason, or was made to suffer greatly and died. Her father was some learned, knowledgeable man, and he came to know that his daughter had been greatly tormented. Whatever TapobalSpiritual power accumulated through austerity and sustained practice — the counterweight that must exceed accumulated black-magic or negative energy for an affliction to fully lift. he had, in great grief he cursed them: you tormented my child in this way and she died — go, may you die too, or may your lineage be destroyed, may you be destroyed, may your family be destroyed. He gave that curse. Do you think, the speaker asks, that the moment he gives the curse it will bear fruit at once, as we see in serials? Not at all, he says — it happens very rarely that a curse fructifies immediately. If a person weeps far more than needed, 24 hours a day, targeting one thing, and becomes so negative that he wants nothing but the other person's death or some accident to befall him before he is satisfied, then so much energy is generated that, to some extent, harm (ghaat) does occur. But that death itself must follow is not necessary. So that curse, he says, will bear fruit whenever it does — 5 years, 10 years, 15, 20, the next generation — and only then will it begin to give its effect. In that situation, when a curse is on someone and the time for it to fructify arrives, the effect of a marana prayoga on that man is also instant: as soon as the marana prayoga is done, the person in front is gone — "Ram naam satya hai". He returns to the same coincidence later: when the time for the curse to fructify arrives and a marana prayoga is done on you by your enemy, it fructifies immediately — the moment the prayoga is done, the curse too is arriving at its time of fruition. Now you ask: how is it that the curse fructified exactly when he did the marana? How can that be? This, he says, is the rule made by Bhagavan; it is his maya.
Dev-shraap from cutting a peepal, shami or tulsi or removing a deity's place
Paying someone else to cut does not avoid the dosha
The second cause, the speaker says, is the curse of deities: a temple broken, a deity's place removed to build a house, deity trees like peepal, shami or tulsi uprooted, an old worshipped tree on purchased land cut down. Paying someone else to cut it does not escape the dosha — the ghosts, pretas, pishachas or deities dwelling on it are not fools; it is their home and their yoni, and within dev-shraap comes the curse of all of them.
The second cause, the speaker says, is the curse of deities. Somewhere a temple stood and was broken. Somewhere a deity had a place and it was removed for the sake of building a house. Somewhere there were deity trees — PeepalA sacred fig tree dedicated to Lord Dattatreya — Pitru Tarpan performed beneath it calms agitated ancestral spirits causing domestic unrest., shami, Tulsi and so on — and they were removed and a house built there. Some old deity tree was worshipped there; you bought the land, removed it, uprooted and threw it away, had it cut — by paying money to others. You think, he says, that the land is mine and I am paying someone else to cut it, so no Dosha will attach. But the bhoot, Preta and pishach sitting on it, or the devis and devatas, are not fools. Within dev-shraap comes the curse of all the pretas and pishachas too. It is their dwelling place as well; that too is a yoni, and they have been living there for a long time.
Vidhi for removing a deity tree that must go
Relocate the dwellers, pind and nandi shraddh first
If such a tree truly has to be removed, the speaker says, do it with vidhi-vidhan: have a yogi or knowledgeable person perform puja there and give the dwellers another place, asking them to leave; have a pind offered in their name, do at least a nandi shraddh and pujan there, and only then have the tree cut — then perhaps the dosha will be less. It varies person to person and place to place, depending on what power resides there; otherwise, ordinarily, the curse will attach.
If you come to know, the speaker says, that there is such a tree and it absolutely has to be removed, then have it done with vidhi-vidhan. Have some yogi or knowledgeable person perform puja there and give the dwellers a place somewhere else — "brother, please leave my place". Let some such vidhan be done, let a pind be offered in their name. Then, at the very least, do a nandi Shradh and pujan there, and only after that have the tree cut — then perhaps the dosha will be less. This should be known. He adds that it can vary person to person and place to place — which place it is, what kind of power is there. Otherwise, ordinarily, that curse will certainly attach.
Precaution: others who cut a peepal unharmed are no reassurance
Their curse has not ripened yet
The speaker warns against taking reassurance from someone who says he had a peepal cut and two generations passed with nothing happening. You get elated — nothing happened to him, nothing will happen to us — have it cut, and find your Lanka burning. All these become causes, he says; the curse strikes when its own time to fructify arrives.
Now someone gives you a reference, the speaker says: "we had a peepal tree there, we had it cut, look, two generations of mine have passed, where has anything happened?" You too become greatly elated — nothing happened to him, nothing will happen to us either. You have it done, and now your Lanka is burning. All these become causes, he says. When the time for the curse to fructify arrives, and a marana prayoga is done on you by your enemy, it fructifies immediately.
Daan given with pride erodes inherited punya and its protection
Ten rupees with bhaav versus a lakh with pride
The speaker says your growth was riding on the punya earned by you, your family and your ancestors; when that punya begins to decline the protection fails. Earlier you gave ten rupees with bhaav — "Jagdamba, you gave this, a part is offered back to you, bless all beings"; now a crorepati giving a lakh says "I earned it, I gave it." As the bhaav changes, the punya changes — only a partial punya accrues, so no one comes to save you, however big a donor you become.
But understand this too, the speaker says: there are also your earlier punyas. You, your family members and your ancestors earned Punya, and it was by the effect of that punya that you were prospering. Then the decline of that punya began. What are you doing now? Earning a great deal of money, and you also say, "brother, we do a lot of daan-punya too." But there is no bhaav in that daan-punya of yours. Earlier, he says, you gave ten rupees and there was bhaav in it: "Jagdamba, you have given this; out of it some part is offered to you, Maiya, do kalyan — the welfare of all beings too." Now you have become rich, a crorepati, and you give a lakh of rupees, but with abhimaan, with pride — "we earned it, we gave it." The moment the bhaav changes like this, the punya changes too. Punya is received, but only partially, and for this very reason your protection cannot happen. However big a donor you become, there is no one to save you — it is that simple. He hopes this is understood, he says, by those who ask "we are donors, so why?" — because they come with pride, and that does not work.
Offences at sacred places bring paap that ripens, and marana then finds you
Where punya multiplies, so does paap
The speaker says generations suffer for an offence by you or your ancestors against deities or the places of the pitrs. Citing the Shiva Mahapurana (Vishveshvara Samhita), he says anushthan, yajna-homa or a mantra purashcharana on the seashore purifies night by night, and a sava-mahina anushthan at such deity-frequented places can bring darshan of siddhas; by the same rule, misconduct with a girlfriend or boyfriend at that seashore is a sin that must be borne. Japa on a mountain gives mantra siddhi and deva-kripa; going there to misbehave earns sin too. Calling all this nonsense in the name of modernity changes no rule — where there is punya there is paap. When such a curse ripens while an enemy is doing a marana prayoga, that is when you depart.
Generations suffer, the speaker says, when you commit some offence, or your ancestors commit some offence — an offence against deities, an offence against the place of the pitrs. He recalls that when they were reading the Shiva Mahapurana it was told that if any kind of punya karma is done on the seashore — an AnushthanaAn extended ritual observance — such as 108 recitations of a scripture — carrying its own strict rules. performed there, yajna and homa, a PurashcharanaA ritualistic repetition of a mantra to prescribed rules — required in Tantra Sadhana. of any mantra — then night by night, in each single night, things become purified. If someone does a sava-mahina (a month and a quarter) anushthan at the sea and similar places where deities have their seat and are worshipped, even the darshan of siddhas becomes possible. This, he says, they had read in the Vishveshvara Samhita of the Shiva Mahapurana and elsewhere. Then know this too, he says: when you go to that same seashore and stage "raas-leela" with your girlfriend or boyfriend, that too is a sin. If punya can be obtained there by good deeds, then when you go and do wrong deeds on some seashore, its sin will attach to you as well — and where will you bear it? Blinded by modernity, the speaker says, you do say that none of this exists and it is all nonsense — but when that nonsense fructifies, the burning begins, an experience sharper and hotter than chilli, and then you go about cursing. Nothing is going to come of it; it has to be borne. Abuse all you like — "this was written wrong, that was written wrong, so-and-so said it wrong, there is nothing like this, nothing like that, no problem" — your shouting does not change the rules and the vidhi. Where there is punya, there is paap too. Undergo it. He gives the parallel of the mountain: doing japa on a mountaintop brings Mantra Siddhi and the grace of deities. You go up the mountain to roam and to do improper things — sin will attach there too. In the same way, he says, when the time of fruition comes — when the curses ripen — and some enemy of yours is doing a marana prayoga at the same time, that is when you depart. "Take the earlier ticket", he adds, and turns to the next case.
Why marana can reach a devout household: prarabdha, rinanubandha and half-hearted surrender
Protection lasts only while our punya outweighs theirs
Take a home where everyone does puja-path with bhaav, deities have their place and deity trees are planted — and a marana prayoga is being done. The speaker says such enemies are our own prarabdha, and our seva-puja protects us; but if some offence grows large, our punya's capacity drops, theirs grows stronger, and a rin-dosha or rinanubandha with them ripens, then death or suffering follows, since karma is give and take. Full surrender to Jagdamba — "protect or kill, your will" — is the one exception, but we only take sharanagati when emptied by calamity; while wealthy we surrender half-heartedly, saying "yours, Maiya" while inwardly it stays "mine". So when the rinanubandha is about to fructify, our punya shrinks on its own through delusion and our own mistakes, and the enemy's prayoga succeeds.
Now look further, the speaker says. In your home people are worshippers; you yourself worship, and do puja-path very well, with bhaav foremost. There is a place for deities in the house, deity trees are planted — and a marana prayoga is being done. Here, he says, what happens with whatever tantra prayogas are going on is well known, and he says it again and again: it is our own PrarabdhaThe portion of destiny already set in motion by past actions — spiritual practice and good deeds can lessen its severity, but not eliminate it. that we have received such enemies who are doing marana prayoga on us. Our present or past karma is such, and we are now engaged in seva and puja, so our protection is happening. But, he says, if some offence becomes large, the capacity of our punya will be less and their punya will be stronger; somewhere there will be a rin-parihar dosha of ours towards them, some rin-dosha with them, some Rinanubandha. Then our death will happen there, or some suffering will come to us. This is straightforward: karma is give and take. If we are surrendered to Bhagavan, the speaker says, and it is entirely Jagdamba's wish that yes, this should happen, then the matter is different: in that state, whether she protects or kills or delivers — "your will, I am in your refuge". But when do we ever do that? Only when we have been completely emptied, when we have no wealth or property, only calamity upon calamity — then we take refuge in the deity. When we have wealth, at that time we are going mad in attachment to it: "I have so much wealth — why should I let go? why should I surrender like that?" Even if we surrender, it is half-hearted: we give it, but in the mind it remains "it is mine". We say only outwardly, "yes Maiya, it is yours" — but really, mine. So somewhere, he says, when these things — this Rinanubandha — are about to fructify, our punyas, for some reason, through delusion of the mind (matibhram) and our own mistakes, become less on their own, and then the prayoga being done by the enemy fructifies. Even then we face trouble.
How a strong enemy overpowers a protected household with bali upon bali
Household puja has a limit; his spending has none
The speaker describes the case where the enemy is truly very strong while we too have seva-puja, energies, capacity and deva-kripa. Such an enemy keeps raising the capacity of his negative energies: the deities he has siddha, the bhoot-pret-pishach or chaukis he has mastered, he strengthens with bali upon bali — a pair where one is due, a double pair where a pair is due — spending money without limit. Our puja-path has a limit; most people do a nine-day Durga path and havan once a year in Navratri plus daily seva. So when the force of his projection becomes strong enough, the target dies.
After this, the speaker says, comes the prayoga in which the enemy is truly very strong — and we too are doing seva and puja, we too have energies, capacities, deva-kripa, everything. Here enters the whole business in which he increases the capacity of his negative energies. The deities he has made siddha, the bhoot-pret-pishach or the chaukis he has mastered, he goes on strengthening by offering Bali upon bali: where one bali is to be given he gives a pair, where a pair is due he gives a double pair. Doing this over and over he raises their capacity — meaning he is spending money completely. Then that capacity becomes so strong that, he says, your puja-path is only up to a limit. You are not getting special anushthans done again and again; ordinarily people do it like this — once a year, in Navratri, a nine-day Durga path and a havan, fine, and the daily rule of seva and pujan. In that condition, as soon as the force (veg) of his working becomes strong, his intent is projected onto you, and here the person in front dies.
Warning signs before a marana prayoga takes effect and the need for a raksha anushthan
Drying deity trees, displaced pitrs and guardians
Before the death, the speaker says, the deity trees at the place dry up again and again, because projected negative energies first draw away the sattvic energies. The prayoga removes the pitrs stationed near the door, removes the guardian deities and the sattvic powers present through the deity trees, pleases the sthan-devta and gives bhog or bali to the kshetrapals; this is a karmic field, not one of bhaav, and only then does the vidhi complete and the person die. So inauspiciousness shows first, and through these symptoms you are warned; if you do not read the signal and protect yourself with a specific anushthan, the projection of these energies becomes the cause of your death.
But even before that, the speaker says, all the deity trees present at the place will dry up again and again — this will certainly happen. Whenever a person gathers negative energies and drives and projects them through some mantra vidhi, through deities, those energies first draw away the sattvic energies that are there. The prayoga will remove the Pitr stationed near the door; it will remove whatever guardian deities (dev-rakshak) there are; it will remove the auspicious sattvic powers present there through the deity trees. If there is a sthan-devta of that place, it will please him. Whatever Kshetrapal you have there will be given some bhog, bali or the like. Somewhere along the way, to accomplish his work, he will employ many mantras. And do not say here, the speaker adds, that a wrong deed can be done just by a mantra. He says it again and again: this is the field of karma, a field where karma is primary — it is not being done with bhaav as primary. Only then is this vidhi completed, and only then does the person die. That is to say, the speaker says, somewhere inauspiciousness begins to occur with you first. Through these symptoms it is shown to you that something inauspicious is about to happen. When you do not understand this signal and do not protect yourself by performing some specific AnushthanaAn extended ritual observance — such as 108 recitations of a scripture — carrying its own strict rules., then the projection of these energies becomes the cause of your death. He closes by hoping that, having thought over these symptoms carefully, listeners too will secure their own welfare and protection.
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