Who Gave Brahma and Vishnu Their Diksha — Sadashiva, Parvati as Guru Mata, and the Pranava from the Five Faces
How Brahma and Vishnu received diksha from Sadashiva.
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Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra arise from Mahadev and Mahashakti; no distinction within Hari-Har
One source for the three, renewed every kalpa
The speaker says it has been stated that no distinction should be made within Hari-Har. Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra all originate from Mahadev together with Bhagavati Mahamaya Jagadamba, that is, from Mahadev and Mahashakti both. He adds that after the Pralaya, when one kalpa ends and a new one begins, the Puranas describe creation being composed afresh in many different ways.
The speaker opens the doctrinal ground with a statement he says has been laid down: one should not make a distinction within Hari-Har. There is Mahadev, and there is Bhagavati Mahamaya Jagadamba"Mother of the World" — an epithet of the Devi.. It is through both of them, Mahadev and MahashaktiThe Great Power — distinguished by the speaker from ordinary Shakti sadhana., that Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra come into being. He then places this in time. After the PralayaThe dissolution at the close of a cosmic cycle, after which creation is taken up again., according to kalpa bheda, when a kalpa ends and a new kalpa begins, the Puranas describe that creation is composed in many different ways.
Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh and Indra are posts earned through karma
Accumulated punya carries a being to the post
The speaker says Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh are posts composed by Bhagavan Devadidev Mahadev, and Indra too is a post. It is only through one's own karmas, having earned accumulated deeds and accumulated Punya, that a person reaches a post of this kind.
The second point, the speaker says, is that Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh are posts, composed by Bhagavan Devadidev Mahadev. Along with these, Indra is also a post. It is on account of his own karmas alone, he says, that a person, having earned accumulated deeds and accumulated Punya, arrives at a post of this kind.
The Brahma-Vishnu quarrel, the jyotirlinga, the Ketaki testimony and the boons
Punishment for Brahma, boon for Vishnu, boons again for Brahma
The speaker recounts from the Shiv Puran that Brahma and Vishnu fought over which of them was superior, and Bhagavan Sadashiva appeared between them as a Jyotirlinga; to find its beginning and end, Brahma went upward and Vishnu downward. Brahma had the Ketaki flower give false witness, for which he was punished while Vishnu received a boon. Brahma was later given many boons again: he would have no murti or mandir anywhere in the world, but no yajna or similar rite would ever be complete without him and his worship, and he was established in the form of Vishwakarma.
The speaker says a war broke out between Brahma and Vishnu, each wanting to establish himself as the greater, each saying I am superior. Then Bhagavan Sadashiva manifested. The Shiv Puran describes it, he says: Sadashiva arose between the two in the form of a Jyotirlinga. To discover its beginning and its end, Brahma and Vishnu set off upward and downward. Then came Brahma having false testimony given by the Ketaki flower; Brahma receiving a punishment; Vishnu receiving a boon; and once again Brahma being given boons of many kinds. Those boons, he says, were that Brahma would have no murti and no mandir in the whole world, but that yajna and similar rites would never be complete without Brahma, without his pujan and so on; and that Brahma was established in the form of Vishwakarma. Many such boons were received there.
The first mantropadesh: Sadashiva in the Panchanan form, at the site in Arunachal
Five faces, one place, two disciples
The speaker says the Shiv Puran describes Bhagavan Sadashiva manifesting in his five-faced Panchanana form after the boons, and giving upadesh through those five mouths to Brahma and Vishnu. The Shivling in which he appeared for them is said to be situated in Arunachal Pradesh, as described in the Purana, and that is the place where Sadashiva gave mantropadesh to Vishnu and Brahma for the first time.
After the boons, the speaker says, the description continues right there: Bhagavan Sadashiva manifests in his Panchanana form. How he appears in that five-faced form is described, and through the five mouths the upadesh is given by him. To whom? To Brahma and Vishnu. The ShivlingThe aniconic form of Lord Shiva worshipped at home and in temples. in which Sadashiva manifested for the two of them, he says, is described in the Purana as being situated in Arunachal Pradesh. And that, he says, is the very place at which Bhagavan Sadashiva for the first time gives mantropadesh to Bhagavan Vishnu and to Brahma.
Rudra and Maheshwar are never deluded by Mahamaya, while Brahma and Vishnu were
Why the two quarrelled and the two others never fell
The speaker says Rudra and Maheshwar are vibhuti forms born from the direct, complete form of Bhagavan Sadashiva; Mahamaya never deludes them to excess, so their buddhi stays steady and they have never received punishment anywhere. Brahma and Vishnu, by contrast, had forgotten their earlier karmas or were somewhere deluded by Mahamaya, and that alone is why they fell to fighting over who was superior, for which Sadashiva appeared before them as a Shivling.
In that passage, the speaker says, it is stated that Rudra and Maheshwar, the vibhuti forms of Bhagavan Sadashiva, are of a higher order. That is, Rudra and Maheshwar are born from the direct and complete form of Sadashiva. Mahamaya never deludes them excessively, he says. Because of that their buddhi remains steady, and they have never anywhere received punishment, since they are directly forms of Sadashiva. Because of time, he says, it is told here that Brahma and Vishnu had forgotten their earlier karmas, or had somewhere or other been deluded by Mahamaya. That alone is why war broke out between the two, each saying I am superior. For these two, Bhagavan Sadashiva manifested there in the form of a ShivlingThe aniconic form of Lord Shiva worshipped at home and in temples..
The Pranava as the first upadesh, and its birth from the five faces
Omkar is the vachak, Shiva the vachya; bindu is Mahamaya
The speaker says the first upadesh Bhagavan Sadashiva gave was the Pranav: Omkar is the vachak and Shiva the vachya, the mantra is his own form, and daily remembrance of the Pranava is remembrance of him. A-kara came from the northern face, u-kara from the western, ma-kara from the southern, Bindu from the eastern and Nada from the middle face; with these five parts the Pranava expanded fully and became one syllable, and from it the whole world arose. He asks listeners to keep in mind that the form of bindu is the form of Mahamaya, as the Devi Atharvashirsha says bindu rupena: Bhagavati herself emerged as the bindu from the eastern face and took the form of Omkar.
From the five faces to the Panchakshara, the Tripada Gayatri, the Vedas and crores of mantras
Pranava and Panchakshara as the root of every mantra
The speaker says the separate letters that came in order from the same five faces are Bhagavan Sadashiva's Panchakshara, and from the Panchakshari Mantra the matrika varnas of five kinds appeared; the Panchakshara is held to be Shiva's own form, the one place where his full five-faced form is described. Citing the ninth and tenth adhyayas of the Vishweshwara Samhita, he says from that shiro-mantra the Tripada Gayatri Mantra appeared through four faces, from the Gayatri the whole of the Vedas, from the Vedas crores of mantras, and by those mantras different works are accomplished. So at the root stand the Pranava and the Panchakshara, and through them every work in this world can be accomplished.
The speaker says that what came in sequence from those same five faces, the separate letters produced from it, is what you will find when you look at Bhagavan Sadashiva's Panchakshara in order. From this Panchakshari Mantra the matrika varnas manifested, which are of five kinds. That is, if the complete form of Shiva's five faces, the full form of Sadashiva, is described anywhere, it is in the Panchakshari mantra. Such is its special greatness, he says: the Panchakshara is held to be Shiva's own direct form. He points to the ninth and tenth adhyayas of the Vishweshwara Samhita, where it is described that from that same shiro-mantra the Tripada Gayatri Mantra manifested through four faces. From that Gayatri the entire Vedas manifested, from those Vedas crores of mantras issued, and by those mantras different works are accomplished. Go to the root, he says, and you find that the Pranava and the Panchakshara are the most fundamental, the origin, and through them all the works of this world can be accomplished. He runs the sequence once more from the start: five letters came from the five faces; when they all came into SayujyaUnion or association with the Divine granted to beings slain by the Goddess — they are absorbed into Her retinue (Ganas) rather than simply destroyed., meeting together, they took a form with shape, the form of the Pranava. Those that remain separate built the Panchakshara mantra; from the Panchakshara, through four faces, the Tripada Gayatri; from the Gayatri the Vedas; from the Vedas the mantras; and from the mantras crores of works are accomplished. That, he says, is the root.
How the first diksha was given: Parvati as guru mata, Maheshwar as guru, facing north
Veil, hand on the head, mantra thrice, self as dakshina
The speaker says the Shiv Puran describes Bhagavati Jagadamba Parvati seated as guru mata and Bhagavan Maheshwar as Guru, facing north, when this mantra was given to Brahma and Vishnu; this is the first description of the paddhati and parampara of giving a guru mantra. Brahma and Vishnu also faced north. Shiva covered them with a curtaining cloth, placed his hand on their heads, pronounced the excellent mantra slowly, and, following the vidhi laid down in Yantra and tantra, uttered it three times to give them mantra Diksha. As guru dakshina, Brahma and Vishnu offered themselves.
The speaker says the upadesh of this very mantra was given by Bhagavan Sadashiva to Brahma and Vishnu, and the description of how and when it was given should be heard and known. Bhagavati Jagadamba"Mother of the World" — an epithet of the Devi. ParvatiThe daughter of the mountain and consort of Shiva; the questioner to whom much of tantra is expounded. sat in the form of guru mata, and Bhagavan Maheshwar in the form of Guru, facing north. The guru and the guru mata sat together, and Mahadev faced the northern direction. This, he says, is the first time the paddhati, the parampara, of giving a guru mantra is described. Brahma and Vishnu also faced north. Then Shiva covered them with a curtaining cloth, that is, veiled them, placed his hand on the head, and pronouncing slowly gave them upadesh of the excellent mantra. Following the vidhi told in Yantra and tantra, uttering the mantra three times, Bhagavan Shiva gave those disciples, Brahma and Vishnu, the Diksha of the mantra. And as guru dakshina, he says, Brahma and Vishnu surrendered their very selves.
Who are the gurus of Brahma and Vishnu?
Sadashiva as param guru, Parvati as guru mata, the disciples called sons
The speaker says the avatars of Vishnu have their gurus described, but the question is about Narayana himself and Brahma. His answer from the Shiv Puran is that the first Diksha Bhagavan Sadashiva ever gave was given to Brahma and Vishnu, with Bhagavati Parvati as guru mata; Sadashiva is their param Guru and Jagadamba Parvati their guru mata. That is why the Shiv Mahapuran repeatedly has Sadashiva address Brahma and Vishnu as putra, sons. He adds that this is no fabrication, and that the stuti Brahma and Vishnu then offered is found in the tenth adhyaya of the Vishweshwara Samhita.
The speaker frames the subject at the outset: in the avatars of Vishnu, gurus are described, but for Bhagavan Shri Narayana himself, when and how did he receive Diksha from a Guru, and who is Brahma's guru and when did he receive diksha? He calls it a subject worth knowing. His answer, after the account of the diksha: the first diksha Bhagavan Sadashiva gave was given to Brahma and Vishnu, with Bhagavati ParvatiThe daughter of the mountain and consort of Shiva; the questioner to whom much of tantra is expounded. in the form of guru mata. That is why, he says, when you read the Shiv Puran you find Sadashiva speaking of Brahma and Vishnu as sons many times; again and again he addresses them as putra. So the param guru of Brahma and Vishnu is Sadashiva himself, and Jagadamba Parvati is their guru mata. This is found in the Shiv Mahapuran, he says; it is no fabrication. After that, Brahma and Vishnu also performed stuti, which is found in the tenth adhyaya of the Vishweshwara Samhita. Know your Puranas, he says: you will learn much by which ignorance is destroyed and love for Mahadev grows.
A Narayana devotee and the Shiv Mahapuran: read your own form's Purana, but know all eighteen
Devotion to one form, knowledge of every form
Anticipating the objection that the Shiv Puran shows Shiva as supreme while a listener is a servant of Narayana and holds Narayana supreme, the speaker answers that one should recite the Puranas connected with whichever form one is drawn to and surrendered to. But one must still have knowledge: through the eighteen Puranas and the Upa-Mahapuranas one should be correctly informed about every form.
The speaker says a point will be raised here: you are speaking of the Shiv Puran and the like, and there Shiva is shown as superior; we are servants of Narayana and hold Narayana to be superior. He clears it up on the spot. Whichever form your attraction and your surrender belong to, recite the Puranas and such texts connected with that form. But you must certainly have the knowledge, he says. There are eighteen Puranas and the Upa-Mahapuranas, and through them you should have correct knowledge about all the forms.
Why were the Puranas composed when the Vedas exist?
Veda needs adhikara and a guru; Purana reaches everyone
The speaker says the Puranas were composed so that the Vedas could be understood well, because not everyone can do Veda paath: not everyone has the Adhikara to recite those mantras, and without a special Guru they cannot be studied correctly, the Veda being a matter of adhyayan. Through the Puranas all of that reaches a person easily, so one should recite one's Sanatan Puranas from time to time.
The speaker says the Puranas and similar texts were composed precisely so that the Vedas could be understood well, because Veda paath is not something everyone can do. Not everyone has been granted the AdhikaraThe eligibility or readiness required before attempting an advanced ritual — without it, even a correctly performed rite risks serious harm to the practitioner. to recite those mantras, he says, and without a special Guru none of them can be studied correctly. The Veda is a subject of adhyayan, of study. Through the Purana, all of that reaches us correctly and with ease. Therefore, he says, a person should from time to time recite the Puranas connected with their Sanatan tradition.
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